Typically I’ll take two to three weeks just to make sounds, so that would be messing around with the synths, putting them through pedals and speaker cabs, finding way-out things to do with them. At this point it’s just trying to make any sound until something happens, then I dive right in and start shaping it. It’s a bit like mining for gold – you know there’s something down there, you just have to keep looking. I enjoy getting lost pushing buttons without thinking about the outcome. It helps me detach, and that way I’m open to whatever happens.